3 posts tagged “girls' generation”
Just ain't it my blog? What's this place? Really, osashiburi! It's hard to even recognise this place after such a long time! ^^
I havent' been writing at all but I haven't really been keeping up with the H!P wota crowd or blogosphere any other ways either. I've been reading only a few of my favourite blogs and of course I'm somewhat familiar with the newest releases from H!P but since I haven't been checking IntlWota I don't know what happening or what the latest trend. Actually my carzy devotion to SHINee came to an end also, I don't even watch their reality show anymore although it's hilarious. I plan on catching up with it in the future though. ^^ It's something that can't really be missed!
But why am I writing now? I'll be honest form the beginning. Prepare yourselves for the fact the the worst case scenario has come true. Okay, here it comes...
Tataan!
I'VE STARTED LIKING JOHNNY'S. AND NOT ONLY ONE GROUP BUT ALMOST LIKE HELLO!PROJECT, THE WHOLE THING. Whooh, now I've got it out. But really, I never expeceted this. I guess my likings tend to change really fast... First to SNSD and SHINee and then to Super Junior and Big Bang and then to Arashi. Right now I'm most into NEWS (YAMAPI～～!!!) but also lightly strating to like Kanjani∞ naturally because of their hilarious nature and the fact Nishikido Ryo is there (who's also in NEWS). And their songs are at the same time so much fun but also nice to listen to!
It all happened because of Hana Yori Dango.Or actually let's got a bit more back: the first jdrama I watched (okay actually third, first was Yanpapa and second Densha Otoko but they don't count) was 1 Litre no Namida (1 Litre of Tears). Nishikido Ryo stars in it. He's one of the most handsome guys in this whole world. But that's not the point. The point is, I loved the drama although it's horribly sad and made my cry literally every 5 minutes. But that's where I fell in love with jdrama and since I really wanted to watch some more I remembered hearing about Hanadan and it being crazy good. So I watched it. And I fell in love not only with the drama but also the theme songs of both seasons, Wish and Love so sweet, which are both sang by Arashi (since Matsujun plays the lead male role). So I started recearching Arashi. And because I also loved the drama I started wathcing more jdrama too (beware if you haven't started doing this yet: they completely absorb you in their own little world, so easily!). And after a while I watched dramas with Yamapi (for people who don't know Yamapi (shame on you for that!): Yamashita Tomohisa is his whole name) in them. And god, he's just as if not more handsome than Ryochan. But also the sexiest man I've seen in my whole life. Since I'm a girl, I never really saw any sexiness in H!P - well I knew what other people thought it was but I didn't sense it. As for SHINee, they're so young that they're mostly cute and good-looking and handsome too in my opinion, but not very sexy at all. But now I totally now why some male fans follow H!P (although the age factor is something I don't really understand but I guess women are usally attracted to older men whereas it's the opposite for men. °C-ute and Berryz are still too young for me to understand but well... let's just drop this subject.)! Yamapi is just so drop dead gorgeous!!! How my answers for the survey in my last post would be different now... ^^
So then end result is here: groups I'm a fan of right now are (not in any particular order, but right now it'd be NEWS in the top I guess. It changes a lot)
- Momusu and collectively the rest of H!P (how am I supposed to call the after the Elder Club graduates? You can't suppose me to list every single one of them, for god's sake. I guess I'll always just call them all H!P)
- SNSD (When is their next album being released?! It so overdue. After all the original plans were last summer!
- SHINee
- Arashi
- NEWS
And artists I'm a little bit fan of:
- AKB48 (but this is very little. I just erased almost all their stages I had downloaded and most of them were still unwatched. But I still enjoy their music from time to time)
- Super Junior (quite a lot)
- Big Bang (only their music, not the members. I guess that's called a casual listener? :P
- Kanjani∞ (a beginner so I haven't got their music yet, only seen some performances)
- Wonder Girls (a very casual listener. I don't like their most recent song Nobody for some reason so the only CD I listen to is So Hot since it includes Tell me too.
- BoA (lately she's really starting to attract me... I wish her all the best with her "conquering America", who knows what it could lead to if she succeeded!)
- Who doesn't listen to Utada Hikaru?Ikimono Gakari (They have something others don't. Clearly because all the others are idols, stupid. Except for Hikki of course.)
- KAT-TUN (I'm not into their music very much, the way they sing is annoying and their style is off most of the time and the whole gangsta image doesn't really suit me but I love Kame's acting T_T Why does he have to annoy me so much while on the stage? He's not a bad singer after all (I love Kizuna!). It's just the style!)
In addition to this, in these past few months
I've watched way too many dramas. I'll say it aloud: I'm addicted.
Maybe I'll be now returning to blogging. I've got lots to write about, since I
haven't dropped any of my interests but only grown more of them. And alhtough I
don't follow any of these groups as actively as many other fans, such as for
Arashi watching their regural TV shows, I'm very much into all of them. So look
forward to my "comeback"! If there is anyone interested in my blog
anymore, it's been so long. Well as if I cared. :P I'm just gonna talk to
myself then.
And still waiting for Gocchin's comeback! Not to speak of those promised
minialbums from Aibon.
PS. One thing's almost for sure. For some strange reason I don't find DBSK
appealing at all～!
Now that I let out all of that shit from me in the previous post, for the funnier part of my kpop fandom. :)
First of all, some great kpop sites you should visit to get started. :)
krnloop is a great (unbiased and correct!) Korean Pop News blog. :) Be sure to get all up-to-date news from here.
Stay Gold is a blog full of kpop downloads so if you need something. I love it and the commentaries are always interesting to read too. The blogger has even got a bit into Momusu, it seems. :)
And if you won't get offended about people hating SNSD, then ShenYuePop is full of articles about different stuff. Note that they're not only a news reporting site but always express their opinions too and many times in a pretty hilarious way.
Endless L.O.V.E ♥ ~ is full of SHINee L.O.V.E!!! (The blog is great also in other ways, I only put link to the SHINee category.)
But anyway, I've already started supporting So Nyuh Shi Dae financially too and bought both their first album and single. I bought the Taiwan version of their repackaged album called Baby Baby because it includes a DVD with all the PVs! Although I'm not too sure if I'm allowed to call them PVs because this is Korea not Japan... So maybe I'll say MVs. :) I don't know if everything will be written in Mandarin or something but after all what does it matter to me, it's not like I could read Korean either. :P So I thought that I could buy the Taiwan version, it would make no difference. When I buy H!P music I always buy Japan versions but that's different but all H!P products contain the same things no matter what country's versions they are and the Korea version of Baby Baby doesn't contain the DVD and I really wanted it... ♥ The single on the other hand seems to have a great desing and a lot of photos... Aww, love. :)
So I'm currently waiting for them to arrive. I'll SO post about them when I get them! But for now, a little bit about my fandom. My favourite is SeoHyun. (BTW, all SNSD photos in this post are from Soshified.)
Isn't she looking sweet in that hanbok? ♥♥ Absolutely, I'd say. One thing I've come to realise BTW, when trying to find more photos of these pretty girls: due to official pictures and photobooks it's extremely easy to find great photos of H!P girls! Untagged, great quality... As for SNSD (and other Korean artists, too) the photos seem always to be from some news site and have a huge tag on them (fortunately this one has only a small one!).
Anyway, back to SeoHyun. She's the youngest of SNSD, being born in 1991. She's one of the main singers and rightly so because (at least to me) she has a great voice. It's not too powerful though, but has a sweet tone. She's also a great piano player! Or at least she has a great technique (I'd argue a bit about the mood, she's too hasty. But I guess she was a bit nervous when the video was shot so she cannot have played the best she actually can. And also we have to remember that as she said in the same program she doesn't have much time to practice anymore because she's so busy with SNSD activities. And additionally, she's only 16... So no-one can expect her to be able to play as expressively as this guy for example.). Anyways, here she's playing Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu in C-sharp minor, Op. posth. 66 No. 4.
I can't find the whole program where this is from anymore... It was subtitled and all... But if you want to watch other subtitled SNSD videos go here. It's the YouTube account of Soshi Subs and they present an amazing amount of subbed SNSD videos. If you're interested, I recommend that you start with MNet's Girls Go to School. It's a reality show telling about SNSD's debut and it's great! It's the only one I've been able to watch since I've been too busy... I'll put a few photos more of SeuHyun, this incredibly cute girl! She's really modest and quiet too, maybe a bit too unconfident... But she's just so sweet! And besides, she loves Johnny Depp! We could be real friends, this girls has some good taste... :P
She looks a lot like Mikitty in that one doesn't she? It's funny because I never thought Mikitty was that cute... But I definetely think that SeoHyun is cute!
Our cute maknae (=the youngest) can also be quite sexy!
So where was I? SeoHyun is great but so are all the other girls. :) My second favourite would probably be TaeYeon, the oldest, the leader and also the babyface of the group. :D But seriously, she's incredibly cute too (for a five year old :P)! TaeYeon is probably the best singer out of SNSD with only Jessica fighting for that spot with her, these two indeed being the two lead vocalists. She's incerdibly tiny but also has a powerful voice... I could never have thought that such a mature voice could come out of such a little girl.
A few beautiful photos of her too!
I'll put a clip of her singing now... Since SeoHyun had her talent showcase clip TaeYeon should have one too. Not to like SNSD because they are "talentless"... That's just cheating oneself... (Just to have fun, go and listen to the "male version" of this song... It's amazing how you can really make them sound like real men just by lowering the pitch! Here's some more, these are so funny! It doesn't work so well the other way around though XD)
But that's it for SNSD this time. Two members gone through, seven more to go! :) These girls are actually all my favourites. In this group, there is no last one. But well I just said I'd move on. Because I have a fandom that's even bigger than this one! The first boy group I've ever been into! Who's in my banner??? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Here's a clip of a rehearsal of their debut performance (he's the one with the shirt that says "wicked" XD). It's so cute in the end when they are supposed to stop but TaeMin just keeps on dancing.... I had to play that part of the video again and again, when JongHyun pokes him and he looks so embarassed and MinHo puts his hands in his shoulders like "Okay maknae, it's time to go away now.". :) Poor TaeMin was so concentrated in his performance that he didn't remember to stop! BTW, in the MV TaeMin's the one with a yellow shirt and a bowl cut (LOL) and the one who always in the middle and front in the dance cuts. He has no real solo singing parts, presumably because his voice is still developing, but he has a nice solo dance. And the amazing point is the mike pass he and Key do before and after that part in live performances! I didn't even notice the whole pass before someone pointed it out in their blog... I'm sorry but I can't remember where I read it. But anyway, it's just so sneaky. (Unless, like in their Music Bank performance, it fails... Poor TaeMin had to dance the rest of the song without his mike and unable to sing. :( Fortunately there's not much of the song left after his solo dance.)
That was their DEBUT PERFORMANCE. Seriously, just how talented are these guys?
Next up is Onew!
But someone wanna tell what M.V.P is? I have no idea O_o (Onew's the one who sings that.)
But I'm supposed to include a clip of Onew too am I not? I decided to put a clip of In My Room, the second track in their debut mini album. Onew is the first one singing and I love his voice! So that was Onew! He's the best!
SHINee and especially SNSD (with those hard times they've had) FIGHTING～!
This photo is here just to make me feel a bit better before I start...
First af all I need to point out that I'm a total newbie to kpop and thus completely unaware of many facts and things that have happened in the past. If some facts are wrong - feel free to correct me. :) Everything I say is based on information that I've gathered by reading bits here and there so I might lack an overall view. I'm saying this just because the war that has been going on seems pretty cruel and I wish that if anyone that is somehow involved and also better informed than I am happens to read this entry doesn't just start picking on me. This is just my opinion and because I don't know much about everything that has happened my points of view can seem stupid to people who know more.
And BTW if there's a photo in this post that you think should be credited some way (most of them are taken from Soshified) just mention it in the comments and I'll add the credit.
I have been into SNSD (Girls' Generation) a while now. But being their fan is not that easy - especially if you don't want to hide in your own little corner but rather learn more about kpop.
I can't remember how I first got to know about SNSD, it might have been through H!P - Hello Non-Pro Hour but it took long after that post before I really got interested in them. I can't remember what it was that made me go back to them but I know that when I did I eventually fell in love with them. Comparing them to Momusu, I thought they were extremely professional and talented and overall on a completely different level. Don't get me wrong though, I still love Momusu and no matter how bad singers or dancers they are they'll always be the best for me because after all, their charm is somewhere completely different than in talent and skill. But going back to SNSD, I thought that I would finally have one group that other pop (idol) group lovers would take seriously and respect when it comes to singing and dancing. I admit that I have never read anything that really bashes Momusu or H!P but that's just because I've never been reading much other sites, blogs or forums about jpop, only those about H!P and there isn't naturally much hate towards them since those are created by fans. I still have a feeling that there are "serious music lovers" or Johnny's lovers or whatever that are into jpop but hate Momusu a lot and if not hate then at least laugh at it. And I thought that SNSD would be different from Momusu. I thought it would be up to par with other pop groups and respected just as the others are. I thought it would have teenaged girls as fans also in Korea, not just internationally. I thought that when I would watch concerts or TV performances I would hear fangirls screaming instead of low-pitched men voices shouting. (Not like I care about that though - after watching all those H!P concerts I'm so used to men's shouting voices that when I hear fangirls' screams they sound weird to me. :D)
Just how wrong was I.
Being such a newbie to kpop as I am I started looking for kpop news sites and blogs and such things to help me learn more about this entertainment bussiness so similar to but different from jpop. One of the first sites I found was ShenYuePop, a "Korean Entertainment News & Gossip" site. If you take a look at some of the articles concerning SNSD you'll be able to notice that the people writing for ShenYuePop are not positive about them at all. And what am I to say anything about that, people are free to hate anything they want. It just made me feel a bit bad - did I just find another "ridiculous" idol group which being a fan of is just completely stupid?
Well, knowing all that changed nothing: I'm still a huge fan of theirs. But even if I'm a fan I can still understand most of the points that are argued against them and even agree with some of them.
I guess the difference between the SNSD hate and the supposed Momusu hate (as I said I haven't seen anything like it because I'm only involved with other Momusu fans but I'm completely sure that it exists) is that the SNSD hate seems to be everywhere. I've been thinking about it and found some reasons that sound somewhat reasonable to me.
Popularity.
Momusu is quite a minor act in the Japanese entertainment industry nowadays no matter how much we would want them to be ruling the world or at least Japan. People who think they're a bunch of talentless celebrity-wannabes with a sex-oriented image aiming to rip off every penny from introverted middle-aged Japanese men can easily just pass by them with a shrug of shoulders, do the same for AKB48 and just not care and never think about either of these groups again. Momusu won't be endangering the top position in Oricon charts of their favourite artist's newest single or challenging any of jpop's major acts any other way either. They're just not worth any ultimate hate bacause they're too small to make any difference. I'm sure there are many people who are simply indifferent about them or, especially in Japan, just consider them as something very nostalgic - something they loved when they were children and whose music they still sing in karaoke eveytime they're drunk or having fun with their childhood friends. But something which would now be a bit humiliating to be a fan of now.
Whereas SNSD is probably at their peak - in spite of all the hate they're receiving they have a lot of fans too and their CDs have sold pretty well. They're getting a lot of promotion because they belong to SM Entertainment, the same agency that handles BoA and Super Junior and DBSK (or Tohoshinki or TVXQ or whatever). It's HUGE and has LOADS of money to put in artists they want to promote. One of the things that has irritated SNSD antifans is the fact that they've been promoted through DBSK and SuJu who are already really famous and popular. Such things as making commercials together, appearing on TV shows, being labeled as friends. I find it easy to believe that some of these people really are friends and I don't see anything bad in it. Neither do I see anything bad in SNSD being promoted by using SuJu's or DBSK's popularity. I think this trick has been used before (I've heard that SuJu was also promoted this way - they even made a joint single Show Me Your Love with DBSK back when they debuted. But this is where being a newbie comes in: I couldn't know if there was something that made that situation different from the situation of SNSD today because I wasn't around yet.) But there are people who see this in a different way: they think that SNSD is let go too easily, that they receive all the popularity without having to work hard. And as far as Korea (and Japan also) are concerned, working hard and doing one's best seems to be the most important thing if one wants to be respected.
If someone asks me, I think that they're sincerely doing their best. But how could I know. I never met them. And there are people who say that they sometimes act rude towards their fans and not always as idols should: being grateful and cheerful. Of course I wouldn't want to believe that, but it can be just as true as the sweet image we are offered. What if the sudden rise to stardom really has made some of these girls think too much about themselves? Even if it was (is) so, I wouldn't care. But many people do. Especially in Korea it seems. Being polite is after all just as important (or even more important it seems to me) as in Japan.
(But I do feel funny when international fans feel offended by things that matter in Korean culture but not in their own. I understand that Korean fans get mad when SNSD are not using formal speech when talking to seniors but seriously... Why would someone who lives in Europe or USA feel offended? It still seems that many do. Maybe I just don't take things as personally as other people... And as I said before, people are free to hate whatever they want. So they are also free to feel offended by whatever they feel like.)
Image.
Momusu's current image and SNSD's image are actually very similar. They're marketed as extremely cute but at the same time sexually appealing. When people criticize this kind of image I need to agree with them. It is indeed aimed to attract men (with short skirts and "panties-flashing" and stuff) and at the same time still be pure enough to pull of the "I'm a virgin!" thing (again to attract men) and be appropriate enough to be suitable for children and mass media. To me it seems quite hypocrite and double-standarded.
But in the end, am I not myself the most hypocrite one here? Am I not the one who loves Momusu and SNSD for their cute images? I am. Although I need to defend myself and say that I like the cute image a lot more when there's less sexiness around. Being sexy is nothing wrong (Early Momusu!) but the "cute 'n' sexy" is indeed not a very pretty combination especially when it's used for younger groups like °C-ute. (Yes, this is excatly where I'm being hypocrite, I love °C-ute after all.) But the Golden Era Momusu was actually quite non-sexy and marketed purely as "cute" (if people see sexiness in songs like Happy Summer Wedding, Morning Musume no Hyokkori Hyoutanjima, I WISH or Souda! We're ALIVE it's only in their heads, not in the PVs or whatever) and that's one of my favourite images for Momusu. Still, I love the miniskirts. But I would really like them to wear a bit more especially in concerts and please non-bikini photobooks too!!!
Anyway, although I kinda agree (in spite of still being drawn to the same image I consider as inappropriate) just bashing them for wearing too short skirts and being like "Oops! You saw my panties now! ^o^" is questionable too. After all, it's not like the groups with pure sexy images (although in my opinion all the Asian girl groups I'm familiar with have some cuteness in their image no matter how "pure sexiness" it is) are wearing anything much longer. In some cases they even wear significatly less than SNSD. And honestly I can't see much difference in the image Wonder Girls have in Tell Me and the image SNSD have in Into the New World. Especially SunMi And SoHee, the younger members of Wonder Girls, could easily fit in SNSD.
But maybe this is again because I'm a newbie and I can't see the subtle differences.
(About panties-flashing, I always feel like defending them by "They're not flashing anything! Look! They wearing shorts under their skirts you idiots!" (Photo from Soshistalker)
But really, what's the difference? It doesn't matter if they're wearing shorts or not. Because the goal is still trying to make fanboys drool after their short skirts.)
To conclude, I don't think that their image is that different from other girl groups that don't get bashed. But I neither think that their image is all right even though I love it. (Momusu's image goes a lot further after all.)
But what makes this image seen so bad in Korea while in Japan I don't think it's that bad at all? I have no idea. But maybe it's again because SNSD is supposed to be up to par woth other pop groups. Unlike Momusu which is really starting to be an underground act (not really :DD and also that's a stupid term to use but I just mean similar to all those minor idol acts in Akihabara and also to gravure idols). SNSD instead can't just start being all "bikini porn" (like some fellow blogger hilariously described gravure idoling, I'm sorry I cannot remember who). They're supposed to have some dignity (even though most people seem to think they don't have any) so they can't just do anything.
But can anyone put any name of a current Momusu member and digninty in a same phrase? If you can, I'll bow.
Wow I've gone through so many things... But I bet some of you that aren't familiar with this are still wondering... "So why are they hated so much?" I seems that all of it originates from these various reasons I've gone through here. But what really has caught my eye is the supposed rudeness and bad behaviuor of these girls.
Here is one article about Tiffany that really shows all her bad sides. In my opinion it's a whole lot unfair but I don't want to offend the writer. I just find many parts unnecessary but if you write about someone you hate... You certainly won't write nice things.
And then there's the whole thing about this huge boycott towards SNSD they experienced recently in 2008 Dream Concert (a huge (charity?) concert where all the top artists of Korea perform). This article is also very biased. But I think it's very informative for all people who are not familiar with the situation to understand what kind of hate I'm talking about. Just be sure to consider everything you read yourself! There is also another one concerning this issue. After all this stuff about what's going on in Korea the article also lists everything that SNSD have done wrong according to Koreans and other people who have felt offended by their actions.
And in the end, SNSD had to do something - apologise. I say that it's good that they did it. Since so many people thought they did things wrong and felt so bad about them that they even organised that huge boycott I think it's mature to say you're sorry. In personal life too: you have to apologise sometimes when you don't feel like you've done anything wrong. If other people feel bad about your actions, it's not always about yourself but also about other people's feelings.
While I think that SNSD have been treated unfairly at some points, it's good that they're themselves trying to solve the issue rather than ignore everything (as I first thought they would do). They seem to admit now themselves some of the things that they've been accused of and since they're guilty they need to apologise. But there are things that I really wonder (maybe they're unclear to me because I'm so ignorant of Korean culture but still):
- Aren't people who hurt other people supposed to apologised to them, not just randomly to everyone?
- How is it possible that the same people who demand respect from SNSD can be so disrespectful themselves? Are they any better then SNSD? Why can't people just do like my supposed Momusu haters and ignore them if they're so low instead of going down to the same level by acting disrespectfully themselves?
But I really think that a huge issue like this couldn't have just happened without a reason. There must be something behind it, and SNSD can't be totally innocent if they're so hated. But although I know that most of the antis will not accept this apology (and who am I to blame them for that, how could anyone know if this is sincere or not and if it's written by themselves or forced to them by their agency that's trying to defend their image) at least these girls tried. And that's what means to me, as a fan.
One thing that stood out to me in the end of that apology post in ShenYuePop is the fact that they're wanting SNSD fans apologise too. And there are also people who want SNSD to apologise also in behalf of their fans. At first it sounds weird doesn't it? This is about the group, not the fans right? How does fans' actions make the group any worse or disrespectful?
The idea behind this that I've been represented in many places is that "Fans make or break the artists". I think this is a very interesting view to idols and to entertainment industry overall that I haven't been familiar with before. As they probably mentioned somewhere the (Korean) SNSD fans are considered to be quite violent. There are rumours of rapes and beat ups (in the Dream Concert and also before it) and although I firmly believe that most of them are false there might have been some violence and at least the threathens some SNSD fans have left in various places in the net are true. I believe this is actually not very different from the way some antis act (like the infamous event of an antifan girl making U-know of DBSK very sick by giving him a drink mixed with superglue) but violence is always unforgivable. I really think there's something wrong with Korean society when teenagers and a little bit older fans too put so much in their fandoms. I don't believe there are many people in Finland who would ever be violent towards any starts or because of them. I'm not saying that there isn't violence at all in here - just a few weeks ago there was an incident where about 200 teenagers who were hanging out in a park after a huge free concert and suddenly started to throw rocks and glass bottles at the police with no obvious reason. The difference is that nobody accused the artists that performed in that concert for the violence. And also none of those young people involved argued that they were fighting because of some artist.
My point is that violence will never be avoided, it's something that is part of human nature. But why do these fans in Korea get so passionate about their favourite artists (or, in case of antis, their most loathsome artists) that they're ready to perform extreme actions in order to make other people love/hate those artists or punish people who don't agree with them or even hurt the artists themselves? It's almost like football hooliganism! But even creepier because they don't just settle for raging but they also attempt murders and threathen the artists with such things as kicking them in the stomach so long that they won't be able to have babies (although there are so many versions that I don't know anymore who said this and to who)? The same goes for the crazy Johnny's fangirls with blowpipes! And the crazy H!P fanboys (men) burning CDs and photos!
This really leads me thinking if this fucked-up idol culture is worth existing at all...
Anyway, I think that SNSD is only guilty for the things they do themselves, not the horrible things their fans do and should be not hated for those. And only completely mad people do such violent actions without any provocation (although being provoked doesn't by any means make violence more acceptable) so there's some guilt in someone else too. Being guilty of loathing and threathening doesn't go for SNSD fands only, there are fans of every group out there who do such things. So if the the SNSD fans are to apologise so are all the other fans who have acted hatefully too. It's not like there only one quater that has caused all this mess. There are many people to blame.
As for international SNSD fans, they've probably not beaten anyone but there are some that have been extremely rude. But also in here, they are not the only rude ones. SNSD have been bashed a lot and it's no wonder that people who are emotionally attached to them are angry. But just one thing: no matter how offended and angry you feel by something or no matter how much you hate something, if you're a civilized person you don't just go around and start to run down everyone. People who hate SNSD are free to say it aloud and even make a big deal out of it, but they don't have to take to the astronomical hights it is now in. And SNSD fans are not any better if they start acting similarly and bash other people. If you want people to act respectufully towards SNSD the solution is certainly not to act disrespectfully towards the SNSD bashing people.
So in my opinion. It would be the best if EVERYONE (who's done something wrong) would just apologise. After that everyone's free to hate and love anything want, but I just wish people would stay polite in at least some level so that they needn't to have this kind of open war that's going on right now. Another option is that NO-ONE apologises because everybody's guilty and everybody could just decide we're now even and move on.
Just please, the war that's on right now is ridiculous. I'd be insanely happy if it could end and I, as a kpop fan that wants to learn about all the groups instead of taking one side, could peacefully go on and continue expanding my fandom. For the end, I just want to quote soyboy from ShenYuePop who said excellently:
"Hopefully, the Cartel fans’ boycott will be a reminder to all stars and their respective fan clubs, not just SNSD and Soshi, that if you want RESPECT, then you should give it first."
I'm just so glad that jpop is not this full of bashing and craziness (it's not like it's limited just to SNSD, all the groups and artists seem to have their fair share of antifans)!
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